I see the logic of all that you are saying, but I still have questions (I know, I know, none of it makes sense, but still).
If I were to enact a global masterplan to drive everyone to a digital ID/social credit/CBDC I don't think a dangerous vaccine with multiple boosters would be the way to do it. I'…
I see the logic of all that you are saying, but I still have questions (I know, I know, none of it makes sense, but still).
If I were to enact a global masterplan to drive everyone to a digital ID/social credit/CBDC I don't think a dangerous vaccine with multiple boosters would be the way to do it. I'd have much better acceptance if I had a safe single shot vaccine. Why did they go for a mRNA one (known to have ongoing safety issues), and for a coronavirus (never made a successful & durable vaccine, was defo always going to require multiple doses)?
Why would I do it at all, when everyone under 40 is dead keen to do everything digitally anyway? My kids (teens) won't even use a cash card - they only use their phones. You could just wait a few years. Is the collapse of the financial system so imminent that they had to move now? Or was this an opportunistic move when the virus escaped earlier than planned?
Why does a digital id/CBDC need health information attached to it anyway? Who is the purpose of it? Who cares if I had chicken pox or a chicken pox vaccine?
Difficult but great questions. Either the vaccine isn't as dangerous as we all fear or it is. If it isn't, then job done. It also furthers the GMO agenda. If it is dangerous then it's likely to be a slow-kill bioweapon, thinning out the herd over a decade or more. That achieves some depopulation, it's a win-win.
The collapse of the financial system could happen tomorrow, it could be 5 years. One thing that is certain is that it can't absorb another major shock. And that shock could come at any moment.
I believe that the majority of humanity would oppose CBDC. Sure, Gen-Z might readily accept it but not Millennials and not my generation, Gen-X. And the Boomers, forget about it.
Right now the Global ID system is being developed with vaccines in mind. This is just a ruse, a cover-story.
It’s a crap cover story. I hate the idea of a Global ID, but I effectively have one in the form of my passport, Global Entry metrics, and bank cards. I accept all this to help counter money laundering & so on.
But tie in my health records? No way. They can fuck off. That’s between me and my doctor.
"Either the vaccine isn't as dangerous as we all fear or it is."
I suspect this is the case. The reason for the huge numbers of 'adverse events' & deaths is simply because 40% of the planet has taken the shots. That's 3 billion humans. There are going to be a ton of bad outcomes in a sample of that size. I also suspect the depopulation thing is fear porn brought on and exaggerated by a sort of Freudian death-fear. The answer is massive biblical criminality on a global scale to reap $1 trillion + profits from this 'enterprise'. Follow the money.
It’s not about money. Well, in a real sense, everything is.
What I mean is that the vaccines aren’t about money. They’re about installing a totalitarian control system.
Why would anyone want that?
From then onwards, a database will decide whether or not the VaxPass holder may or may not cross that threshold or undertake this transaction.
There are no limits to what can be controlled in this way.
Add to the mix the requirement to accept repeated “vaccinations” in order to maintain validity of your VaxPass, and you have the perfect setting for mass depopulation.
I may be quite wrong about their intentions but I don’t think so.
Why would anyone want that? Most likely because we are at the end of the fossil fuel era, and they think they can pull off a Controlled Démolition of the economy, averting or deferring total chaos.
They’ve convinced most people that we’re entering an era of scarcity.
Also, an era where humans are destroying their own environment.
While we definitely should do better, I don’t accept either statement. They’re both PROPAGANDA, designed to break resistance to the idea that there needs to be a great deal fewer of us.
You know what? Even if both statements were true, the LAST people I’d want managing any transition is this bunch of psychopaths.
In relation to fossil fuels, we should use them judiciously. We’re not about to run out. Their extraction costs will rise steadily, but note, the vast majority of the costs we pay are taxes.
In pollution, I disagree. We’ve become much cleaner. The world isn’t faintly overpopulation & in two generations, the dominant problem will be FALLING population.
I worked out that every human alive could comfortably fit in Texas in a plot size that’s not absurdly tiny.
Not suggesting we do this. But once you realise how big the world is, you appreciate its yet more propaganda, intended to induce hopelessness & mute acceptance even when we rumble what they’re up to.
I will continue to back human ingenuity over chaos all day.
Away with your silly lies, “Globalists”. We see you.
I love all of this! I remember clear as day reading a biology textbook in college that someone calculated the earth could easily handle 11 billion people if we managed our resources wisely. That has often come back to me as a comforting calculation when the fear porn gets me down. And I've recently accepted in my soul that I am NOT personally responsible for all the failures happening on our planet and it's the creeps who want to revamp the whole system who are responsible for these failures in the first place. So I'm absolutely with you on not trusting them to manage a transition. They had a chance. They blew it. Next!
Sophocles, the injections have a couple of choice advantages: anything can be put in them, obviously chip ID, and now being compulsory, any sort of experiment can be tried, including targeted depopulation.
Some people are already keen for their next poison dose.
The injections also create an outgroup of refusers, for anger to be directed at, instead of anger against the Cult.
I have obviously heard the depopulation point. Putting my Bill Gates hat on, I’d not want to be getting rid of everyone. The “elites” like their elite stuff, jets and so on, that require a lot of people in the supply chain and servicing that make it happen. So I don’t subscribe to the mass depopulation argument (unless the so called elites are beyond stupid).
So as you say, targeted depopulation. I’ve heard Gates speak. He’s fairly clear about who he wants rid of: it’ll be the economically unproductive. Who are they? Old people and stupid people. Targeting old people is quite easy - the virus itself does that. Stupid people less so. I think he is using fat as a proxy (fat correlates to poverty in the west, and poverty correlates - poorly admittedly - with intelligence). But it’s a biological feature, around 50pct heritable, that has some degree of correlation. And we know the virus targets the obese. So already the virus is targeted (and clearly designed to be so).
I am still not sure how the vaccines fit into this plan. It may be a mopping up exercise to further get rid of the olds and fats, with the unintended consequence in athletes and athletic teens. I don’t know how much was driven by the Gates plan and how much is fear driven lunacy by idiot politicians (I am in the U.K., you can’t tell me cretins like Nadine Dorries are in on any plan. Nobody sane would let them know anything). Look at Gavin Newsom and his denied GBS...he’s a WEF alumnus and he clearly took the vaccines and boosters and not saline.
I am sure that there are those looking to exploit the situation for digital ID and so on. The question is WHY tie all this to a vaccine. Does China even do this? I can understand tying it to biometrics, facial recognition etc, but not your immunity. It doesn’t help you ID or control people.
Unless they are planning to “update” the mRNA ones with something nasty (even more nasty I mean) in the future? But mRNA can only make you express proteins. What protein would give you control over someone?
Digital IDs are necessary for CBDC but they are creating a global system. That sets off alarm bells for me. Will we see a global CBDC? Or will it be national? Just think of the catastrophe that would need to befall this planet to usher in a global currency. Tying it in to the vaccine is just an excuse to get everyone tagged with this ID. No one questions why Big Tech and Big State are colluding to create this system when it's for "our health".
As for the mRNA points, we can only speculate there. I have an open mind on this issue and discount nothing, not even the crazier 5G theories. Just have to wait and see.
But that’s the thing: if it’s about a global CBDC then tying it to a vaccine would be a lot easier if the vaccine were effective and safe. It is neither. Even I might consider it if it were!
So then it maybe is about the mRNA. I hear you on the 5G...so much other stuff has been shown to be more than just conspiracy, it’s worth keeping an open mind.
" (unless the so called elites are beyond stupid). "
Evil is always stupid. Evil people are vapid, shallow and socially inept. What is often mistaken for genius in evil people is really just a form of lowbrow cunning. I wouldn't underestimate the stupidity of evil. That would be as fatal as underestimating the danger.
YES! and the arrogance is usually also very fallible. Just look at the environmental meddling. They do not truly understand complex systems. Mao and the sparrows comes to mind.
I've also heard that number in other globalist circles. If they move forward with depopulation it will be a controllable slow-kill. Everyone on the planet injecting themselves every 3 months is the perfect vehicle for it. We are in some super-serious shit if we can't put a stop to it.
I think that's too small for them to maintain the lifestyle they want, and to control the remaining population sufficiently to deliver it to them. They'll be too busy scrabbling to feed themselves and organise a functioning society to be servicing super yachts and the ports and delivering fuel and food to those ports, and so on. The supply chains involved are enormous and interconnected. You could perhaps lose 10-20% of the population gradually (by 2030) and maintain it, but I don't see any more than that. I haven't done the maths, but intuitively it feels wrong. \
Unless the super elite are happy to go Good Life style self sufficiency, behind a barricade, with a few servants and guards. But how is that a better life for them?
Show me one? They don’t exist yet. And If we are all dead, who’s going to make them? Mine the materials to make them? Fire the power stations to make them? Feed the workers to make them? Maintain the supply chains? Look after their families? Educate their children?
People (those that are left) are going to be too busy grappling with obtaining enough food to fanny about making robots for Bill Gates. Some of them might be so angry they skin his scrawny hide and eat HIM! I hope he has lots of tons of beans in the bunker where he’ll need to spend his final days.
Such a nice open minded discussion below! I am open to all crazy shit at this point. But as a recovering mormon, I don't believe any of it 100%. Yet. I too wonder how the elites envision a paradisical world without 90% of people gone. And why primarily target western nations?? But there are so many unknowns I wouldn't be in the least surprised if there is a plan using technology we are unaware of to replace us with robots or replicators or for them to make the jump to transhumanism without us and just live on forever in a pristine and largely mechanical world. Then it's not about the money. But honestly who knows.
Hmm that's an interesting theory on getting other countries on board. I have to say Mike's comment is very logical. I just find it odd that most of the so called elites are products of the western democracies, it's bonkers that they would cull their own first. But like I said, I question everything I used to know these days and so it's all on the table.
I used to think it was cool that Jacinda was a post-mo (when I wasn't post yet) because there are a lot of admirable things about the church culture. Agree that the zealousness is not one of them however. What I see a lot is post-mos jumping from believing a bunch of nonsense to believing a different bunch of nonsense. Apparently she is no different. It's really disappointing. I feel like after a faith crisis the only path forward is to question everything. I'm puzzled when people don't do that.
It’s to have what seems like a ‘valid’ excuse to control your access to society. For example, currently I’m not allowed to enter or State House, although we’re a tiny state and access used to be very casual. We also are restricted in our travels. While the Chinese are used to this sort of state control, it’s unnatural to westerners and particularly to Americans. Health fear is the new Islamic terrorism fear that lets them ratchet away our rights without universal protest.
This is fantastic but also horrible.
I see the logic of all that you are saying, but I still have questions (I know, I know, none of it makes sense, but still).
If I were to enact a global masterplan to drive everyone to a digital ID/social credit/CBDC I don't think a dangerous vaccine with multiple boosters would be the way to do it. I'd have much better acceptance if I had a safe single shot vaccine. Why did they go for a mRNA one (known to have ongoing safety issues), and for a coronavirus (never made a successful & durable vaccine, was defo always going to require multiple doses)?
Why would I do it at all, when everyone under 40 is dead keen to do everything digitally anyway? My kids (teens) won't even use a cash card - they only use their phones. You could just wait a few years. Is the collapse of the financial system so imminent that they had to move now? Or was this an opportunistic move when the virus escaped earlier than planned?
Why does a digital id/CBDC need health information attached to it anyway? Who is the purpose of it? Who cares if I had chicken pox or a chicken pox vaccine?
I'm sure there are more.
Difficult but great questions. Either the vaccine isn't as dangerous as we all fear or it is. If it isn't, then job done. It also furthers the GMO agenda. If it is dangerous then it's likely to be a slow-kill bioweapon, thinning out the herd over a decade or more. That achieves some depopulation, it's a win-win.
The collapse of the financial system could happen tomorrow, it could be 5 years. One thing that is certain is that it can't absorb another major shock. And that shock could come at any moment.
I believe that the majority of humanity would oppose CBDC. Sure, Gen-Z might readily accept it but not Millennials and not my generation, Gen-X. And the Boomers, forget about it.
Right now the Global ID system is being developed with vaccines in mind. This is just a ruse, a cover-story.
It’s a crap cover story. I hate the idea of a Global ID, but I effectively have one in the form of my passport, Global Entry metrics, and bank cards. I accept all this to help counter money laundering & so on.
But tie in my health records? No way. They can fuck off. That’s between me and my doctor.
"Either the vaccine isn't as dangerous as we all fear or it is."
I suspect this is the case. The reason for the huge numbers of 'adverse events' & deaths is simply because 40% of the planet has taken the shots. That's 3 billion humans. There are going to be a ton of bad outcomes in a sample of that size. I also suspect the depopulation thing is fear porn brought on and exaggerated by a sort of Freudian death-fear. The answer is massive biblical criminality on a global scale to reap $1 trillion + profits from this 'enterprise'. Follow the money.
It’s not about money. Well, in a real sense, everything is.
What I mean is that the vaccines aren’t about money. They’re about installing a totalitarian control system.
Why would anyone want that?
From then onwards, a database will decide whether or not the VaxPass holder may or may not cross that threshold or undertake this transaction.
There are no limits to what can be controlled in this way.
Add to the mix the requirement to accept repeated “vaccinations” in order to maintain validity of your VaxPass, and you have the perfect setting for mass depopulation.
I may be quite wrong about their intentions but I don’t think so.
I think you understand the current Agenda extremely well.
Why would anyone want that? Most likely because we are at the end of the fossil fuel era, and they think they can pull off a Controlled Démolition of the economy, averting or deferring total chaos.
They’ve convinced most people that we’re entering an era of scarcity.
Also, an era where humans are destroying their own environment.
While we definitely should do better, I don’t accept either statement. They’re both PROPAGANDA, designed to break resistance to the idea that there needs to be a great deal fewer of us.
You know what? Even if both statements were true, the LAST people I’d want managing any transition is this bunch of psychopaths.
In relation to fossil fuels, we should use them judiciously. We’re not about to run out. Their extraction costs will rise steadily, but note, the vast majority of the costs we pay are taxes.
In pollution, I disagree. We’ve become much cleaner. The world isn’t faintly overpopulation & in two generations, the dominant problem will be FALLING population.
I worked out that every human alive could comfortably fit in Texas in a plot size that’s not absurdly tiny.
Not suggesting we do this. But once you realise how big the world is, you appreciate its yet more propaganda, intended to induce hopelessness & mute acceptance even when we rumble what they’re up to.
I will continue to back human ingenuity over chaos all day.
Away with your silly lies, “Globalists”. We see you.
I love all of this! I remember clear as day reading a biology textbook in college that someone calculated the earth could easily handle 11 billion people if we managed our resources wisely. That has often come back to me as a comforting calculation when the fear porn gets me down. And I've recently accepted in my soul that I am NOT personally responsible for all the failures happening on our planet and it's the creeps who want to revamp the whole system who are responsible for these failures in the first place. So I'm absolutely with you on not trusting them to manage a transition. They had a chance. They blew it. Next!
100% agree. Initially, I endowed the perpetrators with clarity of thinking & extraordinarily careful planning.
I no longer think this.
We shall take it as a good thing!
"massive biblical criminality on a global scale" - couldn't agree more. This Omicron wave is a wave of reactions to the virus.
Sophocles, the injections have a couple of choice advantages: anything can be put in them, obviously chip ID, and now being compulsory, any sort of experiment can be tried, including targeted depopulation.
Some people are already keen for their next poison dose.
The injections also create an outgroup of refusers, for anger to be directed at, instead of anger against the Cult.
Totally get the last point.
I have obviously heard the depopulation point. Putting my Bill Gates hat on, I’d not want to be getting rid of everyone. The “elites” like their elite stuff, jets and so on, that require a lot of people in the supply chain and servicing that make it happen. So I don’t subscribe to the mass depopulation argument (unless the so called elites are beyond stupid).
So as you say, targeted depopulation. I’ve heard Gates speak. He’s fairly clear about who he wants rid of: it’ll be the economically unproductive. Who are they? Old people and stupid people. Targeting old people is quite easy - the virus itself does that. Stupid people less so. I think he is using fat as a proxy (fat correlates to poverty in the west, and poverty correlates - poorly admittedly - with intelligence). But it’s a biological feature, around 50pct heritable, that has some degree of correlation. And we know the virus targets the obese. So already the virus is targeted (and clearly designed to be so).
I am still not sure how the vaccines fit into this plan. It may be a mopping up exercise to further get rid of the olds and fats, with the unintended consequence in athletes and athletic teens. I don’t know how much was driven by the Gates plan and how much is fear driven lunacy by idiot politicians (I am in the U.K., you can’t tell me cretins like Nadine Dorries are in on any plan. Nobody sane would let them know anything). Look at Gavin Newsom and his denied GBS...he’s a WEF alumnus and he clearly took the vaccines and boosters and not saline.
I am sure that there are those looking to exploit the situation for digital ID and so on. The question is WHY tie all this to a vaccine. Does China even do this? I can understand tying it to biometrics, facial recognition etc, but not your immunity. It doesn’t help you ID or control people.
Unless they are planning to “update” the mRNA ones with something nasty (even more nasty I mean) in the future? But mRNA can only make you express proteins. What protein would give you control over someone?
Still thinking it all through, as you can see.
Digital IDs are necessary for CBDC but they are creating a global system. That sets off alarm bells for me. Will we see a global CBDC? Or will it be national? Just think of the catastrophe that would need to befall this planet to usher in a global currency. Tying it in to the vaccine is just an excuse to get everyone tagged with this ID. No one questions why Big Tech and Big State are colluding to create this system when it's for "our health".
As for the mRNA points, we can only speculate there. I have an open mind on this issue and discount nothing, not even the crazier 5G theories. Just have to wait and see.
But that’s the thing: if it’s about a global CBDC then tying it to a vaccine would be a lot easier if the vaccine were effective and safe. It is neither. Even I might consider it if it were!
So then it maybe is about the mRNA. I hear you on the 5G...so much other stuff has been shown to be more than just conspiracy, it’s worth keeping an open mind.
Maybe they never realized the vaccine would be such a disaster. Also, most people think these vaccines are miraculous anyway.
Most people are fools. It's deeply frustrating.
" (unless the so called elites are beyond stupid). "
Evil is always stupid. Evil people are vapid, shallow and socially inept. What is often mistaken for genius in evil people is really just a form of lowbrow cunning. I wouldn't underestimate the stupidity of evil. That would be as fatal as underestimating the danger.
Here’s hoping because that means we’ve a chance.
As a pal used to say, it’s not the fear that gets you, it’s the hope! Every time!
YES! and the arrogance is usually also very fallible. Just look at the environmental meddling. They do not truly understand complex systems. Mao and the sparrows comes to mind.
The Georgia Guidestones indicate 500 million as target population.
The number of Super elite people is very small.
I've also heard that number in other globalist circles. If they move forward with depopulation it will be a controllable slow-kill. Everyone on the planet injecting themselves every 3 months is the perfect vehicle for it. We are in some super-serious shit if we can't put a stop to it.
I think that's too small for them to maintain the lifestyle they want, and to control the remaining population sufficiently to deliver it to them. They'll be too busy scrabbling to feed themselves and organise a functioning society to be servicing super yachts and the ports and delivering fuel and food to those ports, and so on. The supply chains involved are enormous and interconnected. You could perhaps lose 10-20% of the population gradually (by 2030) and maintain it, but I don't see any more than that. I haven't done the maths, but intuitively it feels wrong. \
Unless the super elite are happy to go Good Life style self sufficiency, behind a barricade, with a few servants and guards. But how is that a better life for them?
Maybe, but they’d need far less of everything if there are far fewer people.
That said, if they do this, the law of unintended consequences applies.
Show me one? They don’t exist yet. And If we are all dead, who’s going to make them? Mine the materials to make them? Fire the power stations to make them? Feed the workers to make them? Maintain the supply chains? Look after their families? Educate their children?
People (those that are left) are going to be too busy grappling with obtaining enough food to fanny about making robots for Bill Gates. Some of them might be so angry they skin his scrawny hide and eat HIM! I hope he has lots of tons of beans in the bunker where he’ll need to spend his final days.
😂 stay positive!!!
(I do think Gates should worry. Someone will get him)
Sophocles, yes, inject any old thing they want in the future. Having an injection is a "fix" for whatever angst seems to ail some people that I know.
Bit of black humour in your post "olds and fats".
Plus the "vaccines" get countries in hock to the zillionaires.
Win win for the WEF.
Such a nice open minded discussion below! I am open to all crazy shit at this point. But as a recovering mormon, I don't believe any of it 100%. Yet. I too wonder how the elites envision a paradisical world without 90% of people gone. And why primarily target western nations?? But there are so many unknowns I wouldn't be in the least surprised if there is a plan using technology we are unaware of to replace us with robots or replicators or for them to make the jump to transhumanism without us and just live on forever in a pristine and largely mechanical world. Then it's not about the money. But honestly who knows.
We could read the WEF website.
There are some clues but it's terribly boring and vomit inducing.
I think that the Cult is deluded, but that's the nature of cults.
Jabcinda was a Mormon till age 25. Might explain her zealousness.
Her father was a policeman, explaining the authoritarianism.
Do you think that targeting the Western countries for the Cult's cull helped to bring other countries on board, eg China.
The Cult hates us for sure.
Hmm that's an interesting theory on getting other countries on board. I have to say Mike's comment is very logical. I just find it odd that most of the so called elites are products of the western democracies, it's bonkers that they would cull their own first. But like I said, I question everything I used to know these days and so it's all on the table.
I used to think it was cool that Jacinda was a post-mo (when I wasn't post yet) because there are a lot of admirable things about the church culture. Agree that the zealousness is not one of them however. What I see a lot is post-mos jumping from believing a bunch of nonsense to believing a different bunch of nonsense. Apparently she is no different. It's really disappointing. I feel like after a faith crisis the only path forward is to question everything. I'm puzzled when people don't do that.
Humans are very flawed.
I think it’s only the democracies who might fight back. Hence the intent to take them all out early via a global coup d’etat?
It’s not so much about the vaccine as it is about compliance and the willingness to accept and do as told.
Yes, it's a test for sure.
Did I pass or fail then? 😂
Hopefully you passed. 👍
It’s to have what seems like a ‘valid’ excuse to control your access to society. For example, currently I’m not allowed to enter or State House, although we’re a tiny state and access used to be very casual. We also are restricted in our travels. While the Chinese are used to this sort of state control, it’s unnatural to westerners and particularly to Americans. Health fear is the new Islamic terrorism fear that lets them ratchet away our rights without universal protest.
ding ding ding! someone has their thinking hat on!